Has anyone experienced scorching or burning of cork heatbed insulation?

  • A comment to my question How much insulation do I really need? has made me paranoid about using cork as a heatbed insulator:

    Why worry -- other than the fact that it's flammable. All that's needed to start a fire is having the thermistor fail or come loose. I'd use a flameproof material if you're going to insulate.

    The flash point (ignition temperature) of cork is, apparently, 300 - 320°C1, which is not, as far as I can tell, a temperature that the heatbed reaches, so, in theory, cork should be safe to use as an insulator. In fact temperatures of around 300C are used in the manufacturing process of some cork products2:

    For insulation applications, agglomerates of granules of
    cork, known as black agglomerates, are employed. They
    are manufactured in a closed autoclave at high
    temperature (approximately 300uC) and pressure
    (around 40 kPa) without the use of adhesive

    In addtion, according to Why should we use cork?

    Does cork burn?

    Cork is a slow combustion material. That is to say, yes it burns but very slowly and it doesn't produce flame so it doesn't spread. Also, when burning, the smoke that it releases is not toxic.

    However, I am not sure if all cork is equal, or whether the thickness of the cork can affect the safety. To give a definite figure, I was thinking of using 2 mm - 5 mm thick cork sheeting.

    Has anyone experienced, or know of, any burning (or scorching) of cork, when used as a backing insulator to a heatbed, in particular, an aluminium PCB MK3 heatbed?

    1 Source: What is the the ignition temperature of cork? | ChaCha

    2 Source: Cork: properties, capabilities and applications

    The thickness of the cork shoudn't affect its combustion. Thicker insulation just means a lower external surface temperature (since the bed temperature is limited by software), and reduced heat flux through the insulator. Bonding materials and glues are probably more significant when you're using some sort of composite material - depending where you source the cork from, it might not be just cork.

  • StarWind0

    StarWind0 Correct answer

    6 years ago

    The real fire risks with 3d printers are electrical in nature. Lets say your wires come undone and happen to come next to the other lead. If it archs and happened to be in just the right position. Pretty unlikely. Once I did a bad solder job and when I was working on my printer. The wires literally burst into flame in my lap. No damage done (other than needing a new board). That said we often see people who have their boards catch fire in the flashforge owner groups. Weak solder joints, and over all bad quality.

    Do you really have something to worry about with Cork? No. A series of unfortunate events would have to happen, and more likely your board will cause a fire. That said I would look into adding a layer of aluminum and reflect some of that heat back up.

    If you are that worried I would just remove the sheet. Unless you are having issues calibrating you heated build plate / PIDs there is no reason to use insulation. I only use it on printers that have a hard time hitting ABS temps of 100c. Even then I only use tin foil and try to trap the air underneath.

    Just a side note. If you are having heated build plate issues maybe what you really need is a heat chamber.

    The cork itself might not *cause* a fire, but it might be excellent fuel. Just about any consumer item (whether it be a toaster or a couch) is made with flame-retardant materials, *and for good reason*.

    @TomvanderZanden that is a very good point. Maybe those harmless blown up controller boards I see on flashforges would instead result in a burned down apartment complex instead if they used wood. I will note that my first printer used laser cut wood. A lot of these plastic frames we see could also catch.

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