Why is it so bad to be born in the Year of the Fire Horse?

  • Japan's birth rate dropped precipitiously in 1966, only to recover completely in 1967.

    birth rate in Japan

    This is apparently because 1966 was the "Year of the Fire Horse" - that is, in the 60-year zodiacal cycle you get by crossing the twelve zodiac animals with the five traditional elements (fire, water, earth, wood, metal), 1966 was in the Horse Year of the Fire cycle - and women actively avoided having children in that year because children born in that year were said to have poor prospects for marriage.

    Is there some sort of mythological story explaining why it's so bad to be born in the Year of the Fire Horse?

    I'm not 100% sure that this question ought to be on-topic. This sort of veers into astrology, which, while not entirely divorceable from mythology, is a separate thing, all said and done.

    My Asian wife was born in the year of the Fire horse. Well.... :)

  • 1966 was a hinoe-uma (丙午) year. This does not come from "crossing zodiac with elements" per se, but is instead a specific combination of celestial stem and earthly branch in the traditional sexagenary dating system.

    Both the stem hinoe (丙) and branch uma (午) belonged to the element of fire. This overabundance of fieriness informs the astrological interpretations that those born on this year have a fiery character - impulsive, vociferous, quick to anger. To the Japanese in particular, hinoe uma is believed to a year of disasters due to its (somewhat irrational) association with great fires.

    Specifically, there is a traditional superstition in Japan that women born in the year of hinoe-uma would shorten their husbands' life (and presumably vice versa but not quite as oft-repeated). This interpretation seems motivated (with little basis) by the great fires of Edo, and was popularised along with such tales as that of attempted arsonist Yaoya Oshichi.

    Oshichi had a crush on someone she met during a previous fire, and attempted to set another fire in order to meet him again. Notably, she is believed to have been born in 1666, a hinoe-um year.

  • There is some science backing this. In 1966 Japan began testing birth control and abortion which led to the decline of births. However they did this even more with women because there is an old omen that says that women born on this year would be impossible to marry off.

    The paper "Increased induced abortion rate in 1966, an aspect of a Japanese folk superstition", published in the April 1975 issue of Annals of Human Biology discusses this:

    A decrease of about 463 000 live births occurred in Japan in 1966, constituting a sharp departure from the linear trend before and after. This was partly caused by contraception and partly by induced abortion. The induced abortion rate, 43.1 per 1000 births in the year (a total of 65 000), was significantly higher than the 30.6 expected (46.200 total) from the regression trend computed from the years 1963 to 1969. No epidemics were reported in 1966 which might have caused the increase in abortion. It is more likely to be due to observance of Hinoe-Uma (Elder Fire-Horse), which comes round every sixty years by zodiac almanac. This event represents a superstition observed only by the Japanese, in which it is a bad omen for female babies to be born in the year. 1966 was the most recent year of Hinoe-Uma.

    This led to the abortion rate of women to almost double this year.

    My worry is that while you cite a possible scientific cause, you don't prove that your reasoning is one of the reasons why the myth was created. I think this answer would be better if you talked more about mythology and less about science. (I'm sorry if I'm leaving too many comments).

    @Christofian It's okay I just have to remember to included everything in my answr.

  • It is bad, because people are envy of our extreme luck, and we are the most used animals of all. But we bring luck to the people we love.

    I am a fire horse and I had moments of my life when people were touching me for good luck. I have only good feelings to the human kind and I always think of my fellow human being first before myself. The last thing you can find in a horse is selfishness.

    As a matter of fact, I've found that the fire monkey is the most selfish animal I know. These people are not interested if you are busy with something at the moment when they need you, they demand you have to leave everything no matter how important and give them full attention or they start screaming. They do everything from impulse, no planning at all, and leave the mess for others to clean. They divorce and leave their families and young kids, because they have lots of other trees to climb. They can sell you for some more interesting piece of ass.

    So I guess the Japanese have gotten it all wrong, it was the fire monkey they were meant to be afraid of, the sneaky ,cheating, playing games animal, that no one can rely on and they are good at masking themselves so you think they are fine people. The horse on the other hand is the most noble person you can meet, they are the people you can call best friends, they will never cheat or betray you and you can put your life in their hands, knowing they would die before anything bad happens to you.

    Be positive, everyone has good and bad qualities, more important is the question: can you tolerate the bad ones?

    Hello and welcome to Mythology! We are a little bit different from traditional forums, we prefer answers that directly (and if possible fully) answer the question. Could you please update your answer to clarify how it relates to the origins of the Japanese superstition about being born in the year of the Fire Horse? Also, although personal experiences can be extremely interesting, we take a more academic approach to studying myths. References are not strictly required, but are certainly welcomed and may make the difference between a poor and a great answer.

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    Hi Yannis, academic approach to studying myths? What kind of answers do you really expect? People are best at giving personal examples, if you need academic approach to mythology you should limit this space to academic people working in this area. Anyone can create myths as long as they get followers. The new myth now is the FIre monkey is dangerous.

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