Right turn signal in Pennsylvania - can I turn on red?
I am travelling in Pennsylvania, USA, and I come across this sign:
Intersections here often have three sets of traffic lights, one with left turn signal signs, one with right turn signal signs, and one with none.
All of the lights in the intersection are the standard 3 light variety. The green light is either a standard circle or an arrow. It is NOT the type with a green light and a red arrow. There are no signs that say "No turn on Red".
Can I turn right on red?
+1 I've always wondered this and was surprised to find it was about my home state! Do other states not use these signs?
NY does not. In the event that there is a time when you can turn right but not go straight, we have a red light and a green arrow. On a dedicated left turn, we may have a traffic light with red, yellow, and green left turn arrows. Other lanes ignore it because its an arrow (even the red)
Ah okay, and I know in NJ this problem is mostly irrelevant due to jug handles, and I've never noticed it in DE. Hm, seems more confusing than anything. I've definitely not turned at intersections with these signs because I was unsure.
And the jug handles confused me when I first drove in NJ. That's one of the downsides of the structure of the USA. Every state does things a bit different.
You should try a roundabout... Weekend drivers from New York City completely freak out when they see one... The sign is actually mostly useless.
I have witnessed many people not turning at a red light when it is A right turn signal. Seems it just confuses people. We should just get rid of them. I do not see a point to them.
When there is a STEADY RED LIGHT, you must stop before crossing the marked stop line or crosswalk. If you do not see any lines, stop before entering the intersection. Wait for a green light before you start.
You may turn right while the light is red, unless a NO TURN ON RED sign is posted at the intersection. You must first stop, check for and yield to pedestrians and other traffic.
You may also turn left after you stop at a red light, if you are in the left lane and are turning left from a one-way street onto another one-way street, unless a sign tells you not to turn. You must first stop and yield to pedestrians and other traffic.
Although not common in Pennsylvania, a RED ARROW is used in other states. It means you may not turn in the direction the arrow points.
The sign you posted:
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL This sign is posted close to a traffic signal to indicate that the signal controls right turn movements.
In practice this usually means that there are situations when it is possible to turn right but not go straight.
There is also DMV Guide to Young Drivers which states:
Making right turns at intersections with lights or signs:
- Even when the light is green, look out for traffic turning left from the oncoming lane.
- Unless there’s a sign that says “No Turn on Red,” in Pennsylvania it’s legal to turn right even on a red light after coming to a complete stop – but only if there’s no traffic coming from the left or across the street, or pedestrians in the crosswalk.
So if you need to make a right turn on Red and there are no specific prohibitions you can do it in PA.
If I understand correctly, this "Although not common in Pennsylvania, a RED ARROW is used in other states. It means you may not turn in the direction the arrow points." implies that you might (though I guess really rarely) see a right-directed red arrow, as opposed to a simple red stop. I would see that as being an over-riding instruction **not** to turn while that red arrow is displayed.